
Group takes issue with Eichelberger
By Phil Ray, pray@altoonamirror.comA group that calls itself a "multi-issue progressive advocacy organization" said it will present a petition to State Sen. John H. Eichelberger Jr., R-Blair, next week asking him to apologize for comments he made on a radio station about lesbians and gays.
Michael Morrill, executive director of Keystone Progress, said his group has more than 4,000 signatures on the petition objecting to Eichelberger's statements during a talk show on WHYY-FM, Philadelphia.
Morrill said Thursday that his group is attempting to obtain 5,000 signatures on the petition before presenting it to the senator.
The comments were made late last week during a debate between Eichelberger, who supports an amendment to the state constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman, and Sen. Daylin Leach, D-King of Prussia, who has introduced a bill expanding the definition of marriage.
Eichelberger said 13 members of the Senate have signed on as sponsors of his bill.
He said members of Keystone Progress have taken what he said out of context. He said Thursday afternoon he has no intention of taking back or apologizing for anything he stated during the discussion with Leach about heterosexual marriage, bigamy, polygamy, other different forms of marriage and procreation.
Morrill said the statement that upset him the most was when Eichelberger said of gay and lesbian couples: "We're allowing them to exist."
Morrill said this statement infers a type of "totalitarian" attitude in that Eichelberger believes he has the power to determine who exists and who doesn't.
Eichelberger said Morrill and his group are purposefully misinterpreting his comment.
The discussion on the radio show when the comment was made concerned whether the policy toward same-sex couples was one of punishment, "to somehow prove that they've done something wrong."
"They're not being punished," Eichelberger responded. "We're allowing them [same-sex couples] to exist, and do what every American can do. We're just not rewarding them with a special designation."
He pointed out that polygamy, for instance, is against the law. Same-sex couples living together is not, he said, as a way of expanding on his explanation.
He also said same-sex relations are "dysfunctional," another characterization objected to by Morrill.
A same-sex union is devoid of procreation, which "by their very nature" is dysfunctional, Eichelberger argued.
Eichelberger said Morrill represents a group based in Colorado, but Morrill said his organization is based in West Reading and includes many Pennsylvanians.
During the interview, Eichelberger expressed concern that including same-sex couples in the definition of marriage would open the door to polygamy, relationships with increasingly younger children and other forms of marriage.
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BBTrekkies
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06-27-09 10:46 PM
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VOte him out you say? You talk about the economy etc and say he has better things to do. How about the Gov. from NC who went to Argentina to be with his mistress on taxpayers time? THAT person needs voted out -- yep I said vote the straight guy out who committed adultery. I am tired of being called a hypocrite for my beliefs - because I do believe in God & feel homosexuality is wrong. We have been told to "Prove it" without using our faith. So I say to you -- YOU prove to me that homosexuality is Normal, natural and healthy behavior that benefits mankind and its future and DO NOT use your personal beliefs or psuedo science as science is YOUR religion. Science is a wonderful thing and I repsect it - but you cannot use science to explain a humans soul or psyche and why we FEEL, LOVE, HATE etc. When it boils down to it we are all hypocrits because we all have a religion wether it be belief in GOD, belief in science alone or belief in mankind - and that religion shapes
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dannyglas
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06-27-09 8:19 PM
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Isn't the top of the Chain of Command Ed Rendell??? Maybe he could lower the corporate tax burden and invite businesses to move to Pa. Obama (BeeHO) is also against gay marriage - I expect all of you to write him a letter and let him know just how outraged all of you are about his beliefs.
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lambs1
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06-27-09 7:03 PM
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Hello folks, John spent probably as much time on this subject as I do, 5 MINUTES at most! NO BRAINER. Did any of you clowns research to see what else he purposed or worked on for you that did not make the AM. Gays smelling gays butt gross!
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DRILLMAMMA
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06-27-09 6:02 PM
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jlaw, Theres more to the Bible than just the scriptures on homosexuality. I'm sure you too have broken a commandment or 2. And I do read the Bible daily. Mr. Eichelbergers condemnation and judgment of others is in violation of Gods word. I agree, he needs to worry about getting better jobs to this area so many young people finishing school don't leave.
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bostonrob
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06-27-09 6:01 PM
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I dont want the government to do everything for me, like dannyglas suggest., But like many of us, we want the government to worry about getting us back on our feet, not what the gay community is doing. Mr Eich needs to spend our money more wisely. After we get out of the recession, then worry about the non issues.
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lambs1
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06-27-09 4:08 PM
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That would make him a red neck!
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lambs1
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06-27-09 4:08 PM
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jlaw, Odds are he does not have a Bible.
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dannyglas
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06-27-09 2:24 PM
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bigots and hate mongers because they believe in something different than you? Did you vote for BeeHO? He feels the same as Eichelberger.
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jlaw65
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06-27-09 1:55 PM
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OBVIOUSLY you are the one who has NO idea about who God is!! God had plenty to say about homosexuality and while I am at it why don't you open your Bible and read the new testament as there is also plenty to say about the subject. Talk about ignorant!! If you want i will post all the applicable Scripture for you to read so you don't have to fumble through that big old Bible that I know you read daily right???
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MOFUPMAN
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06-27-09 1:07 PM
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Our taxpayer money is being wasted by paying this senator and all his huge staff. There is a budget stalemate where the republican senators are acting like grade school children. Some of the state employees will continue working without pay while this joker continues to receive his along with his staff. Gays and lesbians are not the problem with family values. It is the so called religious right who do not understand who God and Jesus are and if they want to quote the Bible they should know there is a lot more written about divorce and no where is there anything about homosexuals from Jesus. This is another bigot and hate monger. He is just as bad as the one he replaced. This area needs to learn that republicans do not have a lock on family values and especially not concern for their constituants. Another politian where we need statesmen.
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lambs1
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06-27-09 12:36 PM
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This so called government wants nothing more than to CONTROL. Just what the libs need because they can't think for themselves.
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dannyglas
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06-27-09 12:22 PM
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Maybe John should host a luau or an early Oktoberfest party. The problem is is these politicians need to leave businesses and CEOs alone. People like bostonrob want the government to do everything for them. The so called stimulus hasn't done squat for Pa residents and other states, has it?
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lambs1
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06-27-09 12:06 PM
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Oh, I forgot only the Dem's do that....
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lambs1
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06-27-09 12:05 PM
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Yes John would you get back to work. More 'spread the wealth' is needed. Please get to work and figure out what you hav'nt raised taxes on yet or how you can raise taxes again on tobacco. Laws yes, Get back to work.
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bostonrob
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06-27-09 11:39 AM
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Sure you can care about your beliefs, but when your state and country are going thru what we are, and your beliefs take priority over getting us out of the reccesion, some is very, very wrong. Time to put your beliefs aside and worry about a fix for your people. He is just plain selfish. VOTE HIM OUT!!!!
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lambs1
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06-27-09 11:15 AM
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Alot of kool-ade drinking here. Must have been a long week for John to have just focused on his position of gay freak marriage. I sure hope he is more focused next week on the important issues! Darn just vote this guy out!
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lambs1
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06-27-09 11:11 AM
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How many pounds of PORK was that Danny?
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dannyglas
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06-27-09 11:01 AM
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Yeah, we are in a recession - wtf was going on at the white house last night? A luau party??
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OooohNoooo
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06-27-09 10:59 AM
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We vote for politicians based on their beliefs. If they are for abortion, gay marriage or some other hot topic and we are not, hen we vote for the one of the other candidates that leans our direction... You can care about your folks and still stick to your beliefs.
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bostonrob
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06-27-09 10:45 AM
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So let me understand this. We are in a recession and all that Mr. Eichelberger can do is worry about stopping gay and lesbian marriage. Are You Kidding me? This is how our state senator is helping get us out of debt. I think we should petition to remove Eich from office, and get someone who cares about the people, not just there own personal beliefs.
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dfs144
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06-27-09 10:23 AM
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Hey Chux "Something is wrong with these people"? There may be something different about homosexuals, but that does not make them wrong. Homosexuality is not a disease, so therefore there is not a cure to it. I think plenty of Heterosexuals have perfected the art of ruining the sanctity of marriage. Everyone should worry about their own d a m n marriage. Whatever happened to life, libery and the pursuit of happiness? I guess it only applies to heterosexuals?
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RidgeRunner
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06-27-09 10:23 AM
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Can the righteous right wing teabaggers please remind us just what the "party of smaller, less intrusive government" is about? And leave your hypocrisy at home, kids.
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RidgeRunner
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06-27-09 10:16 AM
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Layoffs, home foreclosures, increased crime, a dysfunctional state budget, and our senator spends all his time protecting us from the big bad homosexuals. This is nothing but a distraction from the party of NO, since they don't have any solutions to the real problems facing us. I thought this was supposed to be the party of smaller, less intrusive government?
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Blairmedic4121
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06-27-09 10:15 AM
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I love the comment that gay marriage will ruin the sanctity of marriage. THIS IS SO NOT TRUE. This is conservative America trying to find something/someone to place the blame on for their failed marriages. If you want to support somethign that will fix "marriage" then be against adultry. And just for the record, if the option was there for homosexuals to get married, they would settle down and get married. One last thing, if you want to point the finger at homosexuals for having multiple sexual partners, you apparently haven't looked at adolescents and young adults, who are having just as many if not more sexual partners then homosexuals. As far as the study in argentia goes, maybe they should look outside the bar scene at homosexuals that have a social life not associated with the bar and then maybe they would realize that we are just like everyone else.
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Chuxspringer
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06-27-09 10:02 AM
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Because they're NUTS! Something is wrong with these people. It can be cured by intense therapy. They're Studying What? Where? Doctors and specialists from the New York Psychiatric Institute are in the middle of a two-year investigation, on a $400,000 grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), on why gay men have risky sex in Argentina. Researchers visit gay bars nightly in Buenos Aires and question men about their behavior and substance abuse. [Fox News, 5-8-09]
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