
Railroaders museum gets $2M grant
By William Kibler, bkibler@altoonamirror.comState Rep. Rick Geist, R-Altoona, has finally gotten his $2 million from Gov. Ed Rendell for the Railroaders Memorial Museum.
Announced Friday, the Redevelopment Assistance Capital Program grant will enable the museum to finish its long-delayed quarter-roundhouse, while helping Penn State Altoona launch a one-of-a-kind railroad engineering course based there.
Completing the roundhouse will also provide a place to reassemble and store the museum's historic K-4 steam locomotive, which has been under renovation for years.
In 2006, according to Geist, Rendell promised a $2 million RACP grant to supplement a previously acquired $2 million federal transportation enhancement grant that he obtained to pay for most of the quarter-roundhouse work.
A year later, a spokesman for Rendell said the money wouldn't be forthcoming and that Geist had been misinformed or misunderstood about the commitment.
But Geist never quit trying to get the money.
"I asked over and over," he said at his offices in Altoona Friday, where he, museum and campus officials held a press conference.
About a month ago at a private meeting, Rendell finally said yes, Geist said.
Asked what changed, Geist talked about his support of the governor's proposal for a public-private turnpike partnership.
"It wasn't a quid pro quo," however, Geist said. "It was two old warriors shaking hands on a deal."
Rendell spokesman Chuck Ardo said the grant is a new one, that Rendell could approve it now because the Legislature had replenished the fund and that Geist had shown it was a "prudent investment."
"The key here is that the governor had a latitude which he previously had not," Ardo said.
At the time of the grant controversy, the museum had a bid from J.C. Orr Construction to build the quarter-roundhouse for $2.7 million.
When he learned the money wasn't coming, Scott Cessna, then-director of the museum, decided to shrink the project so the enhancement grant alone could cover the cost.
But the museum didn't follow through on that plan, and the bid eventually expired.
Accordingly, the museum will need to bid the project again after revising plans to accommodate an annex that will serve as home for the new engineering course, which Geist suggested three years ago to campus Chancellor Lori Bechtel-Wherry.
Campus officials discovered that the rail industry was eager for such a course to produce engineers with specific railroad knowledge, said Andy Vavreck, director of Business Operations and associate professor of Engineering.
Vavreck designed the course with the help of a consultant to take advantage of assets on the museum property and the nearby Juniata Shops.
The course will turn out four-year graduates who are qualified for any branch of railroading and for quick promotion to management, Vavreck said.
The museum has about $400,000 available from prior grants for the K-4 and will try to raise another $300,000, Salone said.
During the past year, current museum director Larry Salone has been familiarizing himself with the long-delayed project, with the Federal Railroad Administration - which must approve completed work - and with the three firms certified to work on the critical boiler.
The museum may be able to complete the quarter-roundhouse "before the snow flies," Geist said.
He has longterm hopes - and a line in the state's capital budget for $7.5 million - that the museum can buy out neighboring Altoona Pipe & Steel and expand operations into the building.
The new grant has nothing to do with the federal stimulus, Geist said.
Mirror Staff Writer William Kibler is at 949-7038.
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BudsBoy
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04-06-09 11:45 AM
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Actually, NS just laid off over a thousand in PA alone. Sorry to bust the pro-Rail rhetoric, but it is true. Even the mighty NS with the pny up front can't duck the current economy.
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CharlieVarrick
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04-06-09 10:46 AM
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Once Obama closes down Gitmo maybe he can get Congress to build more prisons to house those Islamic radicals in Altoona. That would spike the economy. You want jobs, build a couple of prisons in Altoona to house any foreign fighter captured in Afghanistan or Iraq here. Lets see if the liberals take the bait...I bet not.
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CharlieVarrick
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04-06-09 10:44 AM
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Thanks EXAltoonan for setting the record straight. The only people complaining about Geist in my opinion and my opinion only are your typical left wing demagogues that want government to siphon tax dollars and put it in their pockets. Once America gets over its love affair with the Socialist and Islamic loving President Obama, you know the guy reared in dirty Chicago politics the better it will be. In the next four years you're going to see a middle class revolution led by real, honest and hard working Americans fed up with their tax dollars being spent on people sitting around all day waiting for their meal money. If the Democratic party has all the answers, why are cities like Detroit, Chicago and Philadelphia in dire financial straits? Do the research and you'll find out that in Michigan which has been governed by Democrats for over 25 years, it keeps getting worse and worse each and everyday. Can't blame Bush any longer. The buck stops with Obama.
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CharlieVarrick
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04-06-09 10:38 AM
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OooohNoooo you miss my point...passenger train service should be resurrected. Only six months ago Gas was over $3 a gallon and in California $4 a gallon....how quickly we forget. The only people griping now a days are the ones that want government handouts. So tell me who is going to pay for all of Obama's handouts? Is it you? I certainly don't. Rail service would offer solutions and jobs...when a train needs servicing where would you go to get it serviced? Think about it...our energy problems are only going to get worse as long as we depend on the Arabs or people like Chavez to solve them.
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CharlieVarrick
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04-06-09 10:34 AM
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Sorry Aces not so. If you really want to get technical which I don't think you do, look at how much PBS gets from the government and whose ratings don't merit such a handout. The funding for the arts for even tiny little projects puts what the Museum receives to shame. So why aren't you griping about that?
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EXAltoonan
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04-06-09 1:46 AM
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As for the local decline in "Railroad Facilities" in Altoona and the surrounding areas this trend is also seen across America in almost every industry. Detroit is basically being shutdown. Caterpillar, ADM, JLG also are huge corporations that are laying off millions worldwide. Take a look at the nations railroad and NS in particular. These are all high paying worthwhile careers eligible for Altoonans. The trend of the railroads runs on a 30 year cycle and the last large hiring sessions happened in the 70s. Now 30 years later NS is actually hiring by the hundreds. Pretty good for most of the country to be laying off and NS is hiring.
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EXAltoonan
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04-06-09 1:40 AM
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Granted this engineering program at PSU would train those that may leave the area, but then again it would be only the 3rd specific course of it's nature in Pennsylvania and therfore would continue to bring new students into the area for their education as well as bringing mommy and daddy's money into the local economy. Currently living in the midwest I have personally worked along side dozens of college students from 2 colleges in this program and the ideals and innovations they bring to the table are outstanding. everything from emissions to reduced fuel consumptions to battery powered locomotives. All of these innovations also make it into mainstream America.
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KlausVR
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04-05-09 2:46 PM
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"These programs have produced engineers ..." Maybe so, but how many of these jobs have been LOCAL ... training local sons and daughters for jobs that take them and their earnings (taxes) out of the area? A fact of life, but so true.
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KlausVR
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04-05-09 2:44 PM
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EXAltoonan (and others) ... when Altoonans state that the railroad is "dead", they are speaking particularly of the railroad presence in THIS area ... e.g. Sam Rea, 12th Street shops, much of the shop complexes between Altoona proper and Juniata (North Altoona), etc.
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TheWizardOfOZ
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04-05-09 1:18 PM
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Just what we NEED...more fivolous project funded thru the GOVT with our tax dollars in the middle of a depression! Just because its done everywhere doesnt make it right that Altoona has to try and get their share of the pork...why not stop it all and try to spend these trillions on developing long term industry and will provide good family sustaining jobs for generations of Altoids to come? The Gov't has an idiotic vision of how to help its people. No wonder we are in the mess we find ourselves with this absolutely stupid approach to awarding grants of tax monies....!!! Time to start over...****pletely over.
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Aces20
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04-05-09 12:50 PM
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I predict that it'll be at least a decade before any of the so called "jobs" that the RR Museum, PSU-Altoona, and NFS MAY create through this $2 million dollar earmark will actually appear. And by that time, I predict that this group will have either been given MORE earmarked money to adjust their plan because it'll already be behind in techology, or the program will be dismantled altogether. This entire program will be another government money pit that will allow NFS, PSU-Altoona, and the Museum to keep crying to the gov't about how they need more funding.
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OooohNoooo
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04-05-09 11:39 AM
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If this project creates ANY jobs, they will be few. I think the museum employes only a handful of people as it is... This may double to a total of ten or so... WoooHooo... About 25% of what a new Sheetz does... And Sheetz probably pays better!
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PRR1361
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04-05-09 9:00 AM
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ExAltoonan- THANK YOU
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EXAltoonan
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04-05-09 5:44 AM
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As for the railroad being dead for the past 30 years, I believe that you had better double check your resources before you start tripping over your lips again. The nations 5 class 1 railroads have all seen tremendous growth over the past 10 years and NS in particular has made numerous technological advances in emissions and train control that have never been matched. NS continues to be one of the largest employers in Blair County and will be around for many more years. I believe the partnership with the museaum and PSU will only benefit Altoona and all of it's citizens. Bringing this type of education to Altoona is a mirror image of those programs all across America. These programs have produced engineers that have designed diesel engines that are so efficient that they can even operate under ground helping to open many of the closed coal mines in the area. I say Congrats to Rick Geist and everyone associated with this endeavor.
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EXAltoonan
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04-05-09 5:38 AM
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As a former PSU student and current manager with NS I would like to applaud Rick Geist for striving to bring money to Altoona. If you would like to see where all of your tax money goes check out ****us.gov/grants. You will be amazed at all of the billions of dollars spent each year on very frivolous projects. Some like the research and devolpment for alternative uses of spandex. I for one would rather see the money come to Altoona than to some techie in colorado trying to be able to grow grass on the moon.
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LessGov
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04-04-09 11:19 PM
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PayRaise Rick Geist and Bailout Bill Shuster pretend to be conservatives, but neither has the foggiest idea what it means to be a conservative.
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PRR1361
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04-04-09 10:38 PM
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sorry for that *** stuff. the web address is ****nscorp****
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PRR1361
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04-04-09 10:36 PM
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My formula is common sense! If you build a facility that will have classes and training programs, like the new roundhouse. You will need staff for the programs, teachers. "If" it creates 10 new jobs, that's 10 jobs that would be open to people that were not open before. The 10 will be on top of the existing number of staff at PSU and the museum. The persons going through the program will have a greater chance of being hired to NS. Because they will be qualified. This is what employers look for. Thus creating a boost for employment within the rail industry that is making a return. If you ask how do you know? check out ****nscorp**** to look at NS's corporate earnings and the number of job openings system wide. By the way the museum in Altoona will be one of a few training facilities nation wide. Causing a great demand.
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brutis
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04-04-09 10:23 PM
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PRR1361, Again what formula did you use in determining the museum will create jobs? Or is your mind suddenly 'closed" to further discussion?
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PRR1361
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04-04-09 9:17 PM
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You are not justified in your comparison, the museum was promised this money a long time ago from Rendell, that fell through. It is not often this museum gets funding from the state. Other places do. It's not like the museum belongs to the city of Altoona. It is a private-non profit organization. If this money was meant to be for city upgrades and was to suddenly be shifted to help a local business, then I would be P ed off. But this is not the case. No matter what funding that comes from government its your tax money. 2 million (which is not part or Obamaism) is nothing compared to what the feds are throwing away. So yeah you can have that view, but it doesn't really matter what you think or what I think, we're just wasting our time on this page of close minded thoughts.
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brutis
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04-04-09 9:17 PM
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PRR1361, what formula did you use in determing the museum will create jobs? The museum has never paid for itself. It was a prime concern when getting a loan to start the project. It never will pay for itself. How many of us make repeated visits to a museum? Less the big ones in Pittsburgh and NYC? Thats correct. The museum is a reminder of what once drove the area and America, industry. It's a grim reminder of the thefts of our industrial infrastructure. I don't need to remeber such a political theft. I have lost 3 carrers to theft. "Outsourcing". I have never visited the Rail Roaders musuem. And never will. Why? History does not pay the bills.
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brutis
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04-04-09 9:08 PM
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I as others can think of and see many other uses for 2 MILLION DOLLARS, other than the museum. A prime example of "Pork-Barrel" spending. CHARLIEVARRICK, suggest we depend on ourselves. In the same breath, says there is plenty of money out there for education. Meaning the government. Going to school, raising a family, and working while in your 30-40's is a tremendous task. I am doing it now without working and family, and it is a toll. So much easier said than done. Oh, I did find money. Government loans. Banks no longer finance higher education.
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Aces20
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04-04-09 8:01 PM
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Let's build on the future: Seriously, what's more important? Mandatory Sewer Upgrades for one example? Or ... A Railroad Museum?
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PRR1361
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04-04-09 5:29 PM
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Do most of you uneducated commentors who love wellfare think that preserving YOUR Heritage is a Gimmick??? If you do you need to gain some pride. This museum will become a KEYSTONE in the future of one of the areas largest employer. From the museum will come jobs. either at PSU, the museum, or NS. Think about what you are saying before you post it. By the way get over the museum thing. Let the past be past and build on the future. If we all ban together good things will come. God Bless America, God Bless the museum.
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KlausVR
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04-04-09 4:28 PM
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Thank you Aces ... I think that is an excellent idea. Of course, federal money for infrastructure development and upgrades like that are earmarked for Iraq, not to "US". But, although related, that's another issue altogether.
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