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Official: Gay ceremony largest in Pennsylvania
By William Kibler, bkibler@altoonamirror.com
POSTED: March 30, 2008
As he recited vows of commitment Saturday, Frank Vasquez stopped speaking, overcome with emotion.
He got past the snag only after partner Paul Datti leaned over their double-clasped hands and kissed him, setting off sympathetic laughter from the crowd at Alumni Hall in the HUB-Robeson Center at Penn State.
Vasquez and Datti were one of four couples in what Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission Chairman Steve Glassman guessed was the largest-ever same-sex commitment ceremony held in public in Pennsylvania.
Glassman, the highest ranking openly gay official in the state, hit an emotional snag himself before finding his voice to recite short love poems from Shakespeare, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Walt Whitman and Maya Angelou to the capacity crowd of several hundred friends, family and supporters.
Neither Delia Guzman nor Kat Sinclair ever fantasized about a big wedding day as kids, but growing up in Texas, Guzman figured she would get a man someday — until the reality of her sexual orientation set in.
But that wedding day, ‘‘we ended up with it after all,’’ she said.
Sinclair and Guzman were at the point in their six-year relationship in which they were ready to commit and decided that the ceremony also gave them a chance to make a political statement.
It was a little scary at first, Guzman said, who is helping to raise Sinclair’s 12-year-old daughter.
But when they got to the stage and saw the rainbow umbrellas and a welcoming crowd, ‘‘It instantly became fun and exciting,’’ she said.
Tom Koerber, co-director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual & Transgendered and Allies suggested the ceremony because members wanted to do something different than the usual educational forum for Gay Pride Week.
The vows were not legally binding, but Donna Coffman and Amanda Applegate ‘‘consider it binding and permanent,’’ said Mayor Bill Welch, who presided over the ceremony.
Pennsylvania is among 44 states without the functional equivalent of gay marriage, Glassman said.
Altoona pastor Gary Dull did not support the event and organized a Family Values Rally nearby to protest.
‘‘When the family becomes dysfunctional for any reason, the darkest grief and the deepest pain cannot be avoided,’’ Dull stated in the rally program.
Dull loves homosexual individuals but opposes their sinful way of life, he said.
‘‘They can overcome it and have a life worth living,’’ he told a group of about 100 people who attended the rally on the steps of Old Main. ‘‘The hope of the homosexual is Jesus Christ.’’
David Gormley of Altoona joined the protest ‘‘to stand up for Jesus,’’ he said.
‘‘One man, one woman,’’ Gormley said. ‘‘That what it says in the Scripture.’’
Such controversy made attending the ceremony intimidating, said Eric Rhodes, who was with his partner Davi Reis.
They have been together for eight years and want to make a similar public commitment when an opportunity arises and they more confident of ‘‘social support,’’ Reis said.
Saturday’s ceremony should help to validate that social support, Glassman said, despite the protests and a Senate proposal to prohibit legal arrangements that give marital-type privileges such as health benefits to same-sex couples.
Audience member Stanley Sobieski of State College is straight, but he clapped, smiled and snapped pictures during and after the ceremony.
‘‘It’s so refreshing,’’ he said, after eight years of national intolerance that has left him uneasy and angry, he said.
Sobieski always has been accepting of gays, despite growing up with narrow-minded parents in Philadelphia, he said.
He’s a scientist, and the skeptical attitude that goes along with that leaves no room for closed-mindedness, he said.
Alexandra D’Urso is straight and married but believes ‘‘unless all are free, none are free.’’
Three representatives of the Penn State Atheist Agnostic Association staged a counter-demonstration at Old Main, carrying placards citing Leviticus, proclaiming sarcastically that shrimp and shaving are ‘‘abominations.’’
Dull’s protest is ‘‘tantamount to being in bed with bigotry,’’ said Dan Farbowitz, an association advocate.
Welch had no problem officiating, viewing the ceremony as one of his many community functions and a helpful antidote to the ‘‘weasel words’’ that help prevent gay commitments from counting legally in Pennsylvania.
Mirror Staff Writer William Kibler is at 949-7038.
He got past the snag only after partner Paul Datti leaned over their double-clasped hands and kissed him, setting off sympathetic laughter from the crowd at Alumni Hall in the HUB-Robeson Center at Penn State.
Vasquez and Datti were one of four couples in what Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission Chairman Steve Glassman guessed was the largest-ever same-sex commitment ceremony held in public in Pennsylvania.
Glassman, the highest ranking openly gay official in the state, hit an emotional snag himself before finding his voice to recite short love poems from Shakespeare, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Walt Whitman and Maya Angelou to the capacity crowd of several hundred friends, family and supporters.
Neither Delia Guzman nor Kat Sinclair ever fantasized about a big wedding day as kids, but growing up in Texas, Guzman figured she would get a man someday — until the reality of her sexual orientation set in.
But that wedding day, ‘‘we ended up with it after all,’’ she said.
Sinclair and Guzman were at the point in their six-year relationship in which they were ready to commit and decided that the ceremony also gave them a chance to make a political statement.
It was a little scary at first, Guzman said, who is helping to raise Sinclair’s 12-year-old daughter.
But when they got to the stage and saw the rainbow umbrellas and a welcoming crowd, ‘‘It instantly became fun and exciting,’’ she said.
Tom Koerber, co-director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual & Transgendered and Allies suggested the ceremony because members wanted to do something different than the usual educational forum for Gay Pride Week.
The vows were not legally binding, but Donna Coffman and Amanda Applegate ‘‘consider it binding and permanent,’’ said Mayor Bill Welch, who presided over the ceremony.
Pennsylvania is among 44 states without the functional equivalent of gay marriage, Glassman said.
Altoona pastor Gary Dull did not support the event and organized a Family Values Rally nearby to protest.
‘‘When the family becomes dysfunctional for any reason, the darkest grief and the deepest pain cannot be avoided,’’ Dull stated in the rally program.
Dull loves homosexual individuals but opposes their sinful way of life, he said.
‘‘They can overcome it and have a life worth living,’’ he told a group of about 100 people who attended the rally on the steps of Old Main. ‘‘The hope of the homosexual is Jesus Christ.’’
David Gormley of Altoona joined the protest ‘‘to stand up for Jesus,’’ he said.
‘‘One man, one woman,’’ Gormley said. ‘‘That what it says in the Scripture.’’
Such controversy made attending the ceremony intimidating, said Eric Rhodes, who was with his partner Davi Reis.
They have been together for eight years and want to make a similar public commitment when an opportunity arises and they more confident of ‘‘social support,’’ Reis said.
Saturday’s ceremony should help to validate that social support, Glassman said, despite the protests and a Senate proposal to prohibit legal arrangements that give marital-type privileges such as health benefits to same-sex couples.
Audience member Stanley Sobieski of State College is straight, but he clapped, smiled and snapped pictures during and after the ceremony.
‘‘It’s so refreshing,’’ he said, after eight years of national intolerance that has left him uneasy and angry, he said.
Sobieski always has been accepting of gays, despite growing up with narrow-minded parents in Philadelphia, he said.
He’s a scientist, and the skeptical attitude that goes along with that leaves no room for closed-mindedness, he said.
Alexandra D’Urso is straight and married but believes ‘‘unless all are free, none are free.’’
Three representatives of the Penn State Atheist Agnostic Association staged a counter-demonstration at Old Main, carrying placards citing Leviticus, proclaiming sarcastically that shrimp and shaving are ‘‘abominations.’’
Dull’s protest is ‘‘tantamount to being in bed with bigotry,’’ said Dan Farbowitz, an association advocate.
Welch had no problem officiating, viewing the ceremony as one of his many community functions and a helpful antidote to the ‘‘weasel words’’ that help prevent gay commitments from counting legally in Pennsylvania.
Mirror Staff Writer William Kibler is at 949-7038.
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homerbeep
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04-15-08 4:16 PM
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Let's just completely forget about the Bible for the moment. Is the definition of a word--in this case, "marriage"--what a minority of society decides it should be? And, while we're at it, let's define "gay" not as "happy", "tolerance" as freedom for anyone except Christians, "bigot" for anyone who doesn't agree with the GLBT agenda or lifestyle and "abortion" not as infanticide but as a "lifestyle choice." When society rejects moral absolutes, it enables each of us to create our own dictionary!
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xaphlixionx
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04-05-08 7:30 AM
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'Dull’s protest is ‘tantamount to being in bed with bigotry,’’ said Dan Farbowitz, an association advocate.' APPLAUSE..................
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xaphlixionx
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04-05-08 7:28 AM
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Teresa, I a aware of that too, that is an abomination on the part of those that prevented entry. It is disgusting how the self righteous behave in this age.
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Teresa25
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04-04-08 9:01 AM
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Also, there have been gay couples, where one was dying, but their partner was not allowed in the room because it was for "family only." There are many rights that gays are not entitled to.
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xaphlixionx
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04-04-08 6:33 AM
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I'll answer tht question any how... the rights they are wanting is to be viewed as a legal partner of the other. Which would provide them with health care, the ability to file married on income taxes, to collect their life long partners retirement etc. This just names a few, they are Americans which contribute as much as any other American to our society so why can they not share in these few rights that I have mentioned.
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homerbeep
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04-03-08 4:25 PM
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Sorry for the double post.
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homerbeep
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04-03-08 4:24 PM
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X, I was referring to Teresa25's comments earlier in the thread, not yours. And, please tell me what "rights" gays are lacking in this country?
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homerbeep
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04-03-08 4:24 PM
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X, I was referring to Teresa25's comments earlier in the thread, not yours. And, please tell me what "rights" gays are lacking in this country?
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xaphlixionx
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04-03-08 7:08 AM
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I will rephrase this.. and I never said 'blacks'... I spoke of racism which includes a wide array of people and you assumed I meant blacks.. that is a product of your programing. All people are people and deserve all the same rights whether they be celibate, heterosexual, or gay male or female. 'I have an equal amount of black and white friends and I can assure you not one of the are offended when it comes to comparing the lack of gay rights to their more recent lack of civil rights as being wrong. Hate to tell you people... but the 'Gay gene' is color blind.
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homerbeep
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04-03-08 4:04 AM
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I grow so weary hearing of black and gay prejudice as somehow being morally equivalent. Please read the following carefully: We can PROVE blacks are born with different color skin. How? Our eyes see! Nobody has PROVEN gayness is inherent. "Studies indicate" or "studies may show" is NOT proof! Most blacks are insulted by the comparison! Barney Frank is NOT Martin Luther King!
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Youngandwise
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04-02-08 6:17 PM
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One more thing--there are drums beating outside our doors every day telling us we're wrong. It's things like television shows, books, people like you, and events like this that are put out there to say that this is the acceptable way of life. Unfortunately those beating drums are more persistent than our cries for morals and values. In this instance, it is refreshing to see that a stand was taken for right. I don't expect you to agree with me or expect this to change your mindset and worldview, because God is the only one who can do that. In the least, have some respect. Hopefully one day, you will take your heart to the Lord, fill that emptiness with Him, and seek the truth in Him. There's NOTHING that compares to it. God bless.
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Youngandwise
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04-02-08 6:04 PM
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X-think of your own words. Are your beliefs truly your beliefs, or are they the influence from our degrading society? or maybe a professor you had if you attended college? I know my belief on this issue comes from a irrefutable source--God's Holy Word. I'm so thankful I have His perfect, consistent Word to guide my life by, because if I followed my heart and "gut", my beliefs would constantly be changing. "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." As for calling Christians uneducated--you have no ground to stand on. (I am currently obtaining my Bachelor's and then pursing on for my Masters) Maybe you should educate yourself alittle more in your history. Our forefathers built our country on Christianity. Read the full Washington's address sometime (you'll have to look at history textbooks from 30-40 years ago to find this since humanists have taken it out to hide the truth). You'll be surprised what they didn't teach you in school.
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xaphlixionx
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04-02-08 5:10 PM
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oops...I am not judging you, it was your words and your easy escape to the holy high ground. Those words are not all correct, if you believe it as it is presented then you are a fundamentalist as well and should be offing all your neighbors that work on Sundays. No cherry picking.... You fed right into the mob mentality of all these self- righteous commentors. I thought you were different than that and better than that.. I share alot of your values and beliefs and we are far apart in the political and religious realms but I have respect for you. You disappointed me.
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xaphlixionx
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04-02-08 5:00 PM
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As long as you hold those values you are displaying all the characteristics of those words.. sorry to tell ya. I am not judging your words that you posted.. How are the shoes fitting today? Your comments were not far from sentiments expressed about blacks by bigots not so many years ago. Just change the target and think about that for a while, does that sit well with you? Is that truly your beliefs or was it learned beliefs fro outside influences. Read your heart and gut.
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homerbeep
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04-02-08 3:31 PM
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X: I am neither "insane" nor an "uneducated, bigoted, self-righteous idiot". You reveal your immaturity by name-calling. Please grow up.
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xaphlixionx
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04-02-08 11:21 AM
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I don't have a problem with Pastor Dull and his church, as long as they keep their beliefs where they belong.. to themselves and not try pushing their view of what is right or wrong on the rest of us.. We as a country have freedom of religion and freedom from religion and for one sect to insist theirs is the correct religion is arrogant. There are any churches that embrace gay members and that is these couples right to belong to those churches and worship as any parishioner in any church or not to belive in any god at all... Do you want other religions beating a drum outside your house proclaiming your lifestyle is sinful because you don't believe in their religion.. the answer is obvious. So why did this church do it...
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xaphlixionx
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04-02-08 7:52 AM
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Homer, what do you mean name calling, I called A POT, A POT. Is there a problem when the labeling the obvious... The Altoona Preacher and his ILK should have thought about how they would be perceived before they carried out such an evil task. They have publically declared themselves to be the moral jusdges of us all. So having done this, makes them self-righteous and all of their indiscretions should be exposed as well.. Tell me that this preacher and flock are not committing sins on a daily basis.. that they are all divine and incapable of sin. That would be blasphemous.. Thou shalt throw the first stone lest ye be judged.. Don't you believe in the words of your god. They set out to intentionally judge and hurt people, those couples did nothing to them. Who is the sinner here. When does one sin trump another and require public ridicule and condemnation.
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Teresa25
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04-02-08 7:10 AM
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being gay I intended to say
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Teresa25
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04-02-08 7:10 AM
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There have been thousands of studies citing that being is biological rather than a behavior. Read up my friend:)
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homerbeep
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04-02-08 4:32 AM
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X: Again, what's with the name-calling? You're better than that! Please be civil when someone disagrees with your world-view.
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homerbeep
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04-02-08 4:30 AM
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Tersa25: 1. Comparing race and "sexual orientation"? Come on! That's really lame! Race is not behavior, as homosexuality is! 2. Rights? What rights are gays lacking? 3. Hate crimes? How do you enforce them? Hate is an emotional response--can the judge read minds? If you kill someone without hating them, do you get 5 less years in jail?
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Teresa25
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04-02-08 12:47 AM
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Ok, it cut me off, anyway he is spending his time as a Pastor, as a role model to others, in a pointless protest, when his valuable time could be spent in helping those who really need our help.
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Teresa25
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04-02-08 12:46 AM
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What it comes down to is that protesting this ceremony really did no good and is pointless, these protests are not going to change how the gay couple feels about eachother. So, I think instead of spreading bad feelings towards one another one should spend this time more wisely. Instead of the pastor and others spending their valuable time protesting why wouldn't they spending their time doing good? Go work in a soup kitchen, go feed the hungry, go work in an orphanage. Protesting only show's your hate and dislike towards another human being, while using this precious time to benefit others deeply impacts the community and others. Not only the people protesting here, but even us here blogging right now could be spending our time to help and others, not hurt others and that's what God really wants everyone to do. I am sure the Pastor Dull is a very intelligent man, but obviously he should know that spending his time on something that absolutely no good is going to come out i
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Teresa25
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04-01-08 10:14 PM
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Ok so, you don't announce that your a heterosexual, but everywhere I go I see people holding hands, I see people making out and public, which I personally think is inappropiate. In doing that you are announcing yourself as being a heterosexual. Also, homosexuals announce themselves because they are fighting for equal rights. They need to make everyone aware of the injustices that are happening to them. They are saying I am gay and I am pround and if you don't like it too bad. By you saying they should "keep quiet" is like saying that Martin Luther King Jr. should have kept quiet when injustices were brought against his people.
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xaphlixionx
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04-01-08 9:36 PM
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Dissolve your egos and learn compassion for your fellow man. The comments on here read like a witch trial. This is the year 2008, it is time to crawl out of your sheltered boxes and embrace our differences not to condemn those that aren't like you. This is the exactly kind of thinking that keeps hatred alive in this world. Condemning gays is a hate crime and against the law, our schools don't teach it and it doesn't belong anywhere in our world. To pass these disgusting ideas on to your children is a crime in my view and is no different than teaching your children to hate other races. Bigotry is a product of the uneducated and unexposed. No wonder Blair county is depressed and falling apart at the seams, what businesses would want to come here with all the prejudices you people so unashamedly and so proudly of. Why don't you put gay basher flags in your front lawns beside your confederate flags.
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